with the nomination of john kerry and chuck hagel is president obama sending a chamberlain message? >> i think charles is right. he is sending the message. these are care-takers and people who will keep the foreign policy off his desk. some people say is part of the foreign policy part. climate change, and we know kerry will be deeply invested in. that has a real policy and dollars and cents. the rest is tabulum. the cabinet pointments are people to allow him to focus on this domesticbe transformation. >> bret: a leap forward for tomorrow. secretary clinton testifying on benghazi. she will testify in the morning on the senate side and afternoonbe in the house. this should be high drama when it comes to congress. asking and answering. the republicans are forecasting that. >> i don't know that they will be surprises in a lot of new revelations from the testimony. >> bret: charles? >> i think they will ask what did you know and when did you know it? where were you during the attackbe? what did the president say? who were the embassy personnel who were flown out and not hurt and know an